WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



North Bank 3:07 Thu Nov 28
It's all your fault now
That utter nugget Southon has published an article by an anonymous fan called 'John' (aka Gold or Sully) pointing the finger at the teams demise at you the fans, yes you expect too much and don't appreciate how much the board has done

Over to you

A new CandH follower who goes solely by the name of John has stuck his head way above the parapet and asked courageously whether it’s the Irons fans – in part – who need to take a look at themselves in the present dire circumstances

Wat if the problem at West Ham is not the manager, not his team, not the players, not the stadium, not the board – what if it is the fans who are to blame?

O For never backing the team when times are hard

O for never giving a manager time to build a successful long term team,

O to never give the board any credit for what they do for the club,

O for always expecting us to be a top 6 team,

O for not understanding that players are human beings and they can lack confidence and suffer mentally just as we fans do.

By comparison look how Manchester United have fallen from the glory years and yet I was at Old Trafford last year when they went 0-2 down to a Newcastle side near the bottom of the table (sound familiar…..).

But instead of booing the manager and their own goalkeeper, instead of all leaving for an early half time pint to drown their sorrows the fans ALL got behind their team

Any fan who tried to put the a player or the manager down was instantly shouted down by many fans around them telling them to get behind the team. The sang louder and cheered even more every success.

And that support and enthusiasm galvanised the players to respond and raise their game. They won 3-2 with a late goal from Alexi Sanchez – a player who most United fans hated for his lack of contribution and success despite clear talent (sound like Anderson perhaps).

All the moaning and groaning that takes place at the London Stadium only helps to drag the players down further. This club is in the best shape for many many years and we are as close to being serious contenders for a top 6 place than ever.

Even now after this appalling run we still only a handful of points of where we all want to be. Let’s get behind the manager, the team the board and give them that extra nudge to get the results that will see them climb the table.

Roberto is of course a liability at the moment but as bad as he has played, of all the goals he has conceded, a couple of saves in the right place could have given us an extra 6 points and in 6th place in the league would the fans all then be all calling for the manager to be sacked and the board to be outed.

We are playing awful football at the moment and we have the right to be seriously disappointed with that but the second half against Norwich was one of the most exciting plays I have seen from the team in many a year.

And there is time to get this right if we only get behind the manager and the team and give them the help and support they need to recover their form and play the style of football we all want to see. The West Ham Way!

I doubt my comments will be popular and I expect to get a lot of abuse for backing lame ducks but just stop and think about where we are and where we came from and be careful of what you wish for or we could be back watching the dour style of Moyes or god forbid Big Sam.


https://www.claretandhugh.info/one-brave-vice-asks-are-some-fans-the-problem/

Replies - In Chronological Order (Show Newest Messages First)

Takashi Miike 3:10 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
John/Pat/Karren

Toe Rag 3:10 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
Posts on here as East Stand Pat

Takashi Miike 3:13 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
this cunt seriously compared what manc fans have experienced over the last twenty five years (endless trophies and glory) to our near four decades of misery? haha, what a clueless minge

Eerie Descent 3:14 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
Judging us against Man Utd fans, a team who had 25 years of consistent unrivalled success before their current 'demise'.

Classy stuff.

Far Cough 3:17 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
Does he mean the Man U that tried to get another club organised and by wearing yellow and green scarves, that Man United?

goose 3:23 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
Hi Pat

AKA ERNIE 3:27 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
its actually hilarious to think some twat wrote that.

gph 3:31 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
No, it's MY fault.

I threw away my lucky underpants in 1981, after Liverpool won the League Cup replay.

Their poor form* was temporary, their class was permanent.

*the elastic had gone

Lily Hammer 3:31 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
Yeah, I saw this put up somewhere the other day.

Let’s go with it.

FANS OUT!

goose 3:35 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
i could spend my time picking apart all the nonsense in that article, but instead i'll just label it as a pile of steaming cunt.

Nagel 3:35 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
Man Utd fans do make a lot of noise even when their team is losing. At the recent defeat against Newcastle at St James Park for instance they spent the game chanting 'We want Glazers out'.

Maybe 'John' is right and all West Ham fans should follow their example.

factory seconds 3:36 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
we made plenty of noise when burnley turned up 18 months ago. time for a reminder?

El Scorchio 3:39 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
Whoever that is, then what a crock of shit they have written.

The club should be thank themselves lucky we back them like we do.

Bilic and Pellegrini both had great support until the level of play on the field was indefensibly dire.

Plenty (some grudgingly) gave the board credit for the spending in summer 2018

Who 'expects' us to be a top 6 team? The board's own words were of a five year plan for Champions League football, and how the move would transform the club into a powerhouse? If anything it's their own fault for trumpeting all those words to us, if it them doesn't materialise.

Moncurs Putting Iron 3:40 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
To paraphrase Vlad the Impaler:

"John 'I'd like to see your point, sticking out of the top of your fucking head"

13 Brentford Rd 4:15 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
Stopped reading at "always expecting us to be a top 6 team" and the comparison with Man Utd.

ironskej 4:18 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
In a word: Cunt

Lily Hammer 4:21 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
“......just stop and think about where we are and where we came from.....”

FFS, John, that’s exactly what I’ve been doing and what’s been causing so much pain.

CaptainBlueAndClaret 4:50 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
Takashi Miike,
RE: "John/Pat/Karren "

Toe Rag
RE: "Posts on here as East Stand Pat"

...it shows, IMHO, that THEY are getting worried!

This, after all the 'thick skin' image and 'front' that that THEY try to is portray!

Thames Ironworks 4:54 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
We were promised next level!
Simple as that.

If the owners can't keep their promises then that's not the fault of the fans.

We have allowed them their opportunity to make money and satisfy their ego's, now where is our pay back?

Mike Oxsaw 4:54 Thu Nov 28
Re: It's all your fault now
It's 100% up to the club to deliver something worth supporting; are some claiming it's a chicken & egg situation? If so, they're even more fucking deluded then anybody could give them credit for. Product first, then the passion (and paying punters) will follow.

West Ham fans will NEVER go and support another team - they will stop attending games though if those on the pitch and in the boardroom simply go through the motions.

And if they think tourists will replace the lost core support, they're even more deluded than I ever though a human being could be - 4, maybe 6 games a season at full capacity will never pay the bills and make up for the other 32/34 games played in front of swarms of media recognisable empty seats..

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